Thread:Zaydskate/@comment-4696609-20140815010334/@comment-82.30.183.228-20140819140457

Well, we will see how my argument will "shove" how retarded I am. Your last post doesn't even counter some of the points I was making properly. You either didn't read it properly, you couldn't understand it or you're just plain stupid.

You have made more excuses then I have for everything. You also seem to avoid certian points I make until I repeat them a number of times and only after then will give me an excuse. This gives me reason to belive you're lying. Your excuses seem impratical and somewhat unrealistic (considering the circumstances) and give me more reason to believe you're lying. I joked about it in the run, I asked if the glitch made a difference after the run and then I accused you of cheating a few days later. Hardly still going on about, unlike you who was stupid enough to start the argument again A YEAR after it happened. If I accused you cheating during the run I was JOKING. I had not developed any real suspicion until after the video was uploaded. I kept hold of the button to use the force until I slid off the platform. It was a glitch and if you say it happened to you, then that backs up the idea that it is a glitch that is on all copies of the game. Though whether I had a glitch or not has very little to do with the argument any more, so there's really no point in going further into the subject.

Any problems that the rematch caused were UNINTENTIONAL (except the Gamsendy thing, but that was between him and Al). There was hardly anything (if anything) really against you or StickKid in the video. Obviously people overreacted (though I doubt many people cared). So what if people thought you were a prick, man up and explain what happened. If you uploaded a video of me which made me look bad, I wouldn't care and I would explain to those who asked. Say we had swapped roles, I would have found it rather amusing.

I said that I had reason to believe it was you, NOT I was 100% certain, there is a difference you know. That is not making a point and then going back on it. It seems that cannot understand that.

I made up the text in my article? Was there not Controversy? Was the rematch not edited? Did I not claim it was you? Were you not offended by the rematch? Were you not my Round 2 opponent? Did we (aparently) not have any games we hadn't already done at the time? Did you not tell me that you didn't have LEGO Star Wars amongst other games at the time? Did you not use Spyro for your void? Did I not say that void matches shouldn't count? Did I not accuse you of being manipulative? Did you not try to get me to use an emulator? Did you not accuse me of forcing people to play games? Did I not say that emulators were not compulsory? Did you not make threats to kick me out because I didn't have the Grand Final game? Was Lyle not convinced that we were doing Harry Potter? Was the speedrun not postponed? Did you not leave everyone waiting on the day? Did you not tell us then that you didn't own Harry Potter? Did you not propse a speedrun on LEGO Star Wars to beat Episode I? Did I not lose? Did I not make any accusations? Everything I put in my article is true. I explained what my acusation was and made sure it wasn't stated as a fact. Unlike what you did with your article, making your accusations as facts.

It's nothing to do with stratergy, it's the fact that you wouldn't let the tournament progress because you were too scared of losing. Due to the circumstances at the time, seeing as we (aparently) didn't have a common game and you hadn't used Spyro against a real opponent, it would have been almost justified. The only thing stopping it from being completely justified was the fact that YOU could have downloaded another game I had so we could have got the speedrun done. Say you still refused to play one of my games and the only way you could get other games that what you already had was through emulator, what would have happended then? We wouldn't be able to get the match done. I doubt there would have been complaints from people about you doing a game again, especially if it was a game you didn't even face a real opponent in. If anything it's unfair that a competitor should get such a huge tactical advantage because their opponent was inactive. 

You remember incorrectly, again. I never said I wanted to change the Grand Final game, I said if I got to the final we would have no choice but to, that's not the same as me wanting it to be changed. I said to anyway, I probably wouldn't get that far. I even told Lyle that if did get that far I would probably drop out. How could I have practised a Grand Final game if it was going to be changed and I wouldn't know what it would be changed to? (Obviously I would have the decison as what the game would be). I wouldn't have time to practise all my games.

You seem to strongly believe that someone can make a point and then go back on it, why am I not allowed to think that's possible too?

It seems a bit much for the sake of our match that you went out and borrowed a game from someone. It just doesn't seem likely and it was certainly not practical. This gives me reason the believe you're lying. You went through the trouble of borrowing a game when you could have done the much more simple option of downloading a game. You didn't even tell anyone that you could borrow the game, or that you had, you just said on the day that we were doing the game, which raises suspicions further. This brings me to another point which you seem to avoid. You said in the Skype chat that you had no problem downloading a game you had never played for the Final but were not willing to do the same for our match. That just shows that you were desperate to win or something.

You obviously did not see the similarities between this incident and the one with KingEurope. So what if it's a recording of your TV and that you played it on the console? What has that got to do with it? The similarites that I was getting at (since you failed to see them even though I pointed them out) were that you were unresponsive on Skype, you postponed the speedrun and threw it upon me at the last minute. What you did was similar so I can compare you to that even if you're not the same person. It's what people do, use what they have and apply it to the appropriate situation (paleontologists compare fossils to determine whether certain animals were simliar or related, I am basically using the same principle between our match and KingEurope's and my match.) 

You still could have practised, seeing as you suggested the game and objective, you have practised that speedrun BEFORE you suggested it. You would then offer it at the last minute so I could not refuse (say that I had refused, everyone would be probably make me do the match anyway and say that we needed to get the match done). For all I know you could have pre-recorded the run, but I don't want to get into that, there's no point making this argument bigger. Another thing that raised my suspicion was that you made it clear that never wanted to do a speedrun of that game again, not even for fun. This gives me the idea that you knew that wouldn't be able to do well in another speedrun with a different objective, because you hadn't practised the new objective.

Lyle said we were overdue, one cannot be overdue if there is no deadline.

I was merely pointing out that technically blame is still correct to use, even if it gives the wrong impression.

You have the right to your opinion as do I. You have the right to edit your page, as do I with mine. You have the right to make an argument for it to be changed and I have the right to make an argument for it to stay. It would be wrongful of you to change without us coming to an agreement, in same way as it is wrongful to send a someone to prison without a fair trial.

Why do you even care about the opinions? To be honest it's not like the whole world reads my article. Does a few people reading it hurt your ego that much? Grow up. As Christian said the wiki is not your autobiography. So not everthing has to be written the way you want it to, sometimes it can be against you, as your article is against me (which, after I gave evidence, you failed to deny). It about about stating the facts, all of them, not the ones that suit you. The explaination of accusation (NOT the accusation istelf) is a fact because that is what I accused you of. I don't know if you realise but because I put it as an accusation, it doesn't really look good on me either, but I don't care because I'm telling the truth.

"If not, then I'll do it myself and maybe something more as well." I can take that as a threat to vandilse my article. As I mentioned earlier it would be wrongful of you to edit my page without my consent. I've no plans to edit out what's against me on your article and don't intend to make any. Why don't you try being mature about the situation?

In the real world one would not get respect from sophisticated others through childish swearing and isults. In the workplace one would most likely be fired, or have sanctions at the least, for such behaviour.

Saying what you would have done if you were me is not seeing things from my perspective. I did think about the factors, otherwise I never would had any suspicions to start with and I never would have made the accusation. You obviously haven't been reading what I've put because I have considered the possibilites, put my thoughts and explained why I ruled out certain ones. You can't seem to understand what other people are saying because you haven't even considered anything I've said, just straight argued against me without seeing why I thought such things. Saying the reason why someone did something or why they thought something is because they are an idiot is not a proper reason, one is meant to look deeper to properly analyse why these things happened.

I would like to say again, that if the rematch caused you "damage" then you really are pathetic and you need to man up. 

The bad organisation of the tournament IS the hosts' fault, I'm not blaming you for the reason why didn't do well in the speedrun (you are to blame in the sense that you won, but I'd rather not get into that again, since you struggled to understand it the first time). It is a human thing to make mistakes, its not the mistakes that are the problem, it's how you acted upon them. As I have explained many times before, you did not act rationally when a problem occurred that was caused by the bad organisation. Then you tried to justify your behaviour with irrational reasons. Most of the difficulties in the tournament (not just for me) were because of you. Lyle told me in a call that you were ruining the tournament, Al felt the same way in another call and said you were taking the tournament too seriously. I've seen the thread between you and Christian and I think you being very pedantic about what Cristian could be (as was he), even if it is a World Cup Speedruns tournament, I doubt having one person playing as a place that doesn't have a FIFA football team will ruin the tournament or anything like that. All this just shows how you took the tournaments too seriously, dealt with problems impractically and was overall a bad host.

I never said you don't have the right to complain. But you complaining and then getting what you want with no questions asked is not how the real world works (you should know seeing as you seem to know all about the real world). Maybe you should look back at the tournament and see who really made the idiotic decisions.

I have made this argument before did you not read it? I could have sent you the text, but I wanted to do another speedrun because like I said before, anyone could then see I won, not just you, so there would be no questions asked. If you have noticed in previous tournaments, there have usually been some kind of joke speedrun (such as being unecessarily done, had nothing to do with the tournament theme or have been unecessarily long). So I don't see what wrong with a bit of comic relief in the tournament. A bit of fun. You know, because the tournaments are done for fun. I have said many times I said NOTHING about Gamesendy it was all Al. Or are you unable to tell the difference between Al's Irish accent and my English one? I couldn't really ask Cameron to do the speedrun again because the commentary might be offensive to one person. That would be impractical. As I said before, I had NOTHING to do with the Al-Gamesendy feud, I can't be held responsible for what Al said. I did NOT refuse to send you the text, I couldn't have because you never asked for it. Something you should have done first before commenting on the original video that you didn't trust the video. What's worse is the you didn't ask AT ALL. That is definitely your fault

Now you say that me not sending you the text is the reason behind all the problems we have had in the tournament. That's just ridiculous, which further proves you're a bad host. It is the HOSTS' responsibilty to make sure the tournament is in order, by acting appropriately to situations and problems that occur. It is your tournament, you cannot blame other people if things do no go your way. I was on of the hosts of IANR there were quite a few inactive competitors and the tournament didn't run the way I expected. That was my and Ashdragon90's fault for being too relaxed and not pressuring people enough to do their matches. There was some fault of the competitors but it was mainly the hosts. The same principle applies to your tournament. 

I will say however it doesn't seem unfair to blame the hosts, when it was really only ONE host. YOU. Lyle didn't really do as much wrong as a host. He did more that you did to help resolve the problems we were having in the planning stages of our match. Lyle stayed fair, as shown by our match. I don't remember him being offended over little things. Lyle did things right, he was a good host, unlike you. Like I said before he told me you were ruining the tournament. And as I said before as well, as a host of the tournament, the problems that occur are mainly under YOUR responisiblity. The way you acted was inappropriate as a host (seeing as the host should be setting an example). You wouldn't be blamed for as much if you weren't as host.

What I did wasn't the cause of the problems, it was how you reacted to what I did. It was what you did in response to what I did that caused the problems.

It is very unprofessional of a host to put the blame for all the problems on one person. It shows poor character and shows that your not capable of handling responsibilities properly and maturely.

We are not going anywhere with this argument. It was a stupid idea for you to have continued this argument A YEAR after the incident happened. I would prefer it if we didn't continue because it's just a waste of time. I am going to make it clear here that I DO NOT give you permission to edit my article. If you do the mature thing and not want to continue this argument, do not reply to this post at all. Your silence willl confirm that.